![]() ![]() right now means there is a big difference between A sharp and A,not a small difference. Right now means getting those who are tens of cents off to cents off. i have never seen a person getting used to using a pair of crutches and continue to use them long after the ankle sprain is healed. ![]() so i find your demo very helpful to,her.īut for many who are currently going through the stages on mcd and reality shows, without you or a finely tuned piano-still lame- at their disposal, what you have demonstrated or what my kid does are good to know at best. for instance, my kid tunes her violin without even using a tuning fork anymore. Nate, from your replies many will appreciate even more where you are coming from. Sure you could let your kids eat McDonald’s and watch Keeping Up With The Kardashians every day, but is that really the same thing as eating a salad and reading a good book? I agree, there are other ways and opinions in going about teaching intonation, but not all of them are of equal merit or value. Well I believe it is important especially with intonation and rhythm to stress the fundamentals, and build a good foundation right way. there must be more than one way out there for all!i think nate did a great demo, but for beginners if they can play at nate's worst as demo-ed, it is quite impressive and not bad at all,don't be surprised that many out there at the moment cannot hear the difference between the good and bad demos.' 'whatever makes the student learn to rely on the ear and feel the fastest. The piano with its tempered scale is a compromise in intonation. 1 by Samuel and Sada Applebaum, "Do not be afraid to be out of tune with the piano. Pablo Casals, the great cellist went as far as to say in The Way They Play, Vol. Electric tuners and pianos temper interval which causes them to sound out of tune and have 'b eats’ as I demonstrated in the video. A finely tuned piano’s thirds will never be exactly in tune if you listen carefully because pianos are tuned with equal temperament. Piano intonation though isn't perfect either. To my ear a finely tuned piano has better intonation than most electric tuners (and definitely the one I use to get my tuning A). ![]() 'charles above recommends the use of piano, but not tuner. In my video I demonstrate how it is a good way to develop bad intonation. I agree it isn’t a good way to develop intonation. ‘i don't think it is a good way to develop good intonation, but tuner can provide a rough idea, a reasonably reliable starting point, when learning by ear seems too challenging for the moment.’ So how are those that are ‘pitch challenged’ going to improve when they perform on stage if they don’t listen with their ears? otherwise, for those without much confidence or access to reasonably good references, those who are significantly pitch challenged, then i don't see why tuners should be avoided, at the beginning stage.’ for those students that seem to catch on without much difficulty, then going by ear and feel makes sense. the talented ones can only teach talented one, but not others. Perhaps this is yet another example that some people, however talented themselves, are not effective teachers because they do not have the capacity to relate to others. Most people have to learn intonation through stages, as brain and ears and music exposure develop and evolve. ![]() I think nate did a great demo, but for beginners if they can play at nate's worst as demo-ed, it is quite impressive and not bad at all,don't be surprised that many out there at the moment cannot hear the difference between the good and bad demos. there must be more than one way out there for all! Whatever makes the student learn to rely on the ear and feel the fastest. I don't think it is a good way to develop good intonation, but tuner can provide a rough idea, a reasonably reliable starting point, when learning by ear seems too challenging for the moment.Ĭharles above recommends the use of piano, but not tuner. Otherwise, for those without much confidence or access to reasonably good references, those who are significantly pitch challenged, then i don't see why tuners should be avoided, at the beginning stage. ![]()
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